This piece sounds narcissistic. Do Christians really need to read a fluffy essay about a person’s decision to hide her voting preferences? And, anyway, who goes to a church where people vote for pro-abortion parties? This is bizarre. As an Australian, I hope you Americans do stand up and vote for life, and tell the world why. Jesus told us to shine our light on issues, and turn tables. Trust me, born-again Christians didn’t defeat slavery by acting like pretend peacemakers. They didn’t hide their pro-life votes in the dark.

You're right Holly -it says a lot about our country that people's ears don't perk up when "God" is mentioned. Good thoughts...and no matter what, we need to treat others and their opinions with respect! Feel free to read my blog today about a famous Christian woman who acted downright "unchristian." http://rumorsofglory.net/blog/?p=374

Just a Biblical perspective note on the use of language. In all three Biblical languages there is only ONE word used fo what we usually translate 'faith' or 'belief.' In other words, Biblically you should be able to interchange those two words without losing any meaning; and one should avoid defining them by one another; and finally one should not make a distinction between the two. Cy Fletcher, Baytown

We know as Christians that scripture teaches us that only what is done for Christ in this life will last. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. said "That man that has not has found a cause that he is willing to die for, is not fit to live." I believe that anyone that truly wants their life to count for something realizes there is truth to that statement. It is when we become aware of the needs, problems and issues facing the world that we have a genuine concern to help bring resolution. Jesus said "Blessed are the peace makers." He also told us to "Pray for the peace of Jerusalem." I strive to speak the truth in love. When I speak the truth to people it is because I genuinely have a love and compassion for people, not just because I enjoy "Setting people straight or putting them in their place." There are many issues that are not of primary importance to me, but there are certain convictions or principles which I base my life upon. I have a concern for so many in this generation that have never known stability or Godly moral boundaries in their lives. Should Jesus tarry may He give each of us the wisdom and courage to seek and find common ground where we can actually be salt and light in the world.

I'm from the Philippines but I read a lot of papers and hear news about the upcoming elections in the States. I pray that God will use this time and event for the Americans to seek Him and believe that He is indeed Sovereign...that He holds everything in the palm of His hands.

Thanks for this article. It made me reflect and check on my opinions, beliefs and convictions.

I believe that if we read and study His word, we will have a guideline to every facet of life.

I like the author's points about reevaluating the values that we put into our ideas and no matter what the outcome of the Presidential race will be, the Lord is still sovereign, but I wholly disagree on several points she makes in keeping her pick on her candidate private because she distinguishes the definitions of opinions, beliefs and conviction, mainly because she has "nothing of substance to back that up," which I'm assuming, she means, her convictions.

The values, direction and the track records of these presidential candidates differ widely. The next President's world-views and values will guide the nation's direction for at least the next four and possibly eight years -- from foreign and domestic policies, pro-choice/pro-life issues, to national security, taxes, nominating Supreme Court Justices, to name a few -- which will shape the immediate future of our nation and our children's future. This is a fight worth fighting for. Past Administrations have shaped foreign and domestic policies, for better or worse. It is the responsibility of each citizen to know as much as they can about the candidates and it is important to exchange their ideas.

Voting is indeed a privilege that many countries do not afford to their citizens -- so to the point of her "numerically insignificant vote," if the rest of America thought that, there wouldn't be much of an Electoral College, would there?

my passionate belief is that an intellectual position you are not proud of sharing - and discussing - is not much of an intellectual position at all, whether it's your political belief or your religious belief. and yet, people who aren't proud of their beliefs rarely have any problem acting upon them, even when those actions intrude on other people's lives

I wish I could say that I invest the most and best of my time in the issues of eternal value and that I am as passionate as I should be about God and the issues He considers important, but I confess that it isn't always true.

You hit it right on: "If someone in your workplace lunchroom made a statement that there’s no God, would there be an equally passionate discussion?"

Just think what the world would be like if believers stood up for their God as vehemently as they stand up for their political parties. Wow—people might actually say, as they did of the first Christians—"they have turned the world upside down."

Voting for a pro abortion candidate is never a choice for us pardon the "pun". It is not above our pay grade nor our admonision To suffer the little children

You are absolutely eloquent, and now I really want to know who you ARE voting for so I can claim your intelligence on the side of "my" candidate. Silly isn't it?! Thank you for this thought provoking and calming entry. I think I will try to join you on this high road. The bottom line is: Nothing comes close to the importance of God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit, our triune God.

All I can do is say Amen to Holly. I could have cut and pasted her statements and posted them as my own. The Pastor's definitions of opinions, beliefs and convictions along with Holly's comments are awesome and worth sharing and saving for future referencing.

As a Christian, who believes what the Bible says, I think we don't even have to think very hard about who we should vote for. Just vote for the candidate who honors God with his moral choices, ie: abortion, same sex marriage, etc. If we don't try to elect a president with those moral standards, I'm afraid God may turn His back on America.

This is an interesting article on a very passionate subject. However, I tend to disagree...

The Bible clearly states the difference between right and wrong on many "issues" of today's election chatter. If a candidate--or political party for that matter--does not hold important such fundamental Biblical principles as protecting traditional, Biblical marriage as the union between one man and one woman, or the right to life of a human being from conception, then I cannot in good conscience vote for, or even consider such a candidate. Some things aren't up for discussion.

Additionally, the only vote that doesn't count is the vote that isn't cast. As explained on Wikipedia, "Voters cast ballots for favored Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates by voting for correspondingly pledged electors... the ticket that receives the most votes statewide 'wins' all of the votes cast by electors from that state." No one should ever think that his or her vote doesn't count. Elections might turn out much differently if everyone that agreed with that theory actually went out and (thoughtfully and prayerfully) cast a ballot.

great article. and i agree with you wholeheartedly. it is my goal to invest my energy in my convictions and not mere ideas, that is to love God with all my heart, soul, mind and strength and to love my neighbor as myself, and definitely sharing His gospel is a great part of fulfilling both of my goals. how that works itself out from day to day varies. but the political process is definitely not it for me, altho i realize that our Lord may call others to it. thanks again for the article.

What a well written article. I want to encourage you not to feel as if your vote is insignificant numerically though. I had that attitude until the last election where it literally came down to a few votes in our state that ended up deciding the presidential election. With that said - Go Vote!

If you don't want to talk about whom you are voting for that is your priviledge. I hope you are not elevating that idea to a conviction that you think the rest of us should live up to. I believe that all truth is God's truth and that matters of state matter to Him. I believe, especially when talking about the great moral issues of our day we need to engage in that discussion. Perhaps we will change nobody's mind, perhaps we will. At least we should let people know that there are huge issues to consider and some clear choices to make. When one party stands for life, the other for abortion on demand, for instance, that is an issue worth debating. Some issues are worth a good fight!

I am a Christian and I am often amazed at the opinions expressed around election time. This is the only time that I hear people very concerned about the morals of this country. We often assume that a candidate stands for certain moral beliefs because of the party that they represent. If we look closely at their lifestyle that's not often the case. On another note, GOOD MORALS does not equal RELATIONSHIP with God or Christianity. I'm with Jesus when he says" Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and to God that which is God's. I am looking for the candidate that I feel will do a good job running this country. I am not looking for a moral police. At the end of the day Jesus is still on the throne and He is who I put all of my trust and confidence in running this country.

Holly,
Thanks for sharing! I do agree. I have to say I have very strong concerns about this issue but ultimately as a Christ follower I do NOT believe either candidate is going to be leading people to Christ because of their position as President and THAT is the thing I am most concerned with. I think it's very sad that as Christians we are known more for what we are againist than what we're for and make more noise about it. I'm for Jesus!! The End!

Have an awesome day!

I'm aproaching the election the same way I (should) aproach every decision in life. In prayer and seeking to further Gods kingdom above all else. God told us in his word that if we'll seek his kingdom first that he'll take care of all of our needs. I encourage everyone to take a hard look at the issues. Which ones do you think God cares about the most? Vote the way he would and he'll take care of the rest of our needs. Glorify him always and in all things. Thank you.

I love the article and learnt a lot from it. There are no Guarantees outside of God. Morals are good but only God knows the heart of a man. Christians would condem Moses (he commited murder), David (adultery and murder) and possibly Jesus on morals issue (he let the adulterer go free), who God will use for a higher purpose in America is already known, (it can be a King Cyrus) you can only pray to vote to align with God's ultimate plan.

There are two issues that people do not want to discuss-religion and politics. Admittedly, these two issues can set a room on fire. They are, however, two of the most important issues that we grapple with. It does matter who we pledge our allegiance to and that is the person of Jesus Christ. Wherever there is discussion about Him, there is division because He calls us to follow Him.

In this election, life is at stake. In our culture, life is being devalued. I hear one candidate saying that he would "never want his daughter (because of her choice to have premarital sex) punished with a baby". Imagine saying that before the Almighty who forms and fashions every life?

I do not wear the label of either party. My citizenship is in heaven. But I am on earth to be salt and light and I will use my vote to honor the principles that God has clearly laid down in the Scriptures. He is the One who I pledge my allegiance to.

I'm not saying who I'm voting for either, and it is my right not to and says nothing about the depth of my convictions. It just says that I'm not willing to be tarred and feathered because I disagree.

I'll just say that there are other moral issues besides abortion. What about the poor? Didn't Jesus mention the poor many more times than pretty much anything except pride and hypocrisy?

I'm not a fan of abortion, but I think health care for poor children is protecting "life" as well. So, if you want to know how any Christian can be torn about this election - there you have it.

I'm a Christian and I'm torn. Leaning one way but not saying which. And, for what it's worth, some of the previous posts just make me glad I'm not saying.

Neither John McCain nor Barack Obama are going to turn this country into some kind of Christian utopia where everyone thinks just like we do.

So consider and pray about the issues and vote accordingly. That's what I'm going to do.

I am astonished to see how some people commenting here pin the definition of a Christian on the issues they're passionate about while conveniently ignoring other issues that should be just as important. One writer told us to "Just vote for the candidate who honors God with his moral choices, ie: abortion, same sex marriage, etc." I, on the other hand, will be voting for the candidate who has faithfully upheld his marriage vows to his first and only wife and who, like Jesus, believes in turning the other cheek to our enemies rather than seeking violent revenge. And rather than worrying that "God may turn His back on America", I will trust in the promise of God, that God will never leave us--no matter who our president is. Thank you for your uplifting essay, Holly.

Holly, I think you've written a great article and I truly admire your concerns, because they are my own as I see believers (Christians of all denominations) struggle with these issues.

However, I disagree with your central thesis, and unfortunately that of your pastor too. We cannot set up a false dichotomy between opinions, beliefs and convictions. There is no such thing. In fact, our deepest convictions come from our belief about certain matters. And our opinions come from our beliefs too or convictions too. Thus, there is a terrible heresy in trying to separate the three.

It is because of my belief in one God that I am convicted that there are no other gods. It is because of this belief, that I am convicted that America is in a state of moral stupor. My belief leads me to believe that we as a nation have abandoned Christ and many Christians (forget unbelievers) are in a state of mortal sin (sin leading to death 1 John 5). Adultery, fornication, homosexuality, abortion are horrific symptoms and tragedies of what we have done as an individualistic culture. My deepest conviction stemming from my belief is that is wrong, and therefore I offer my opinion that I could never vote for a pro-abortion candidate like Barack Obama. These are my beliefs, opinions and convictions! Yes, God is sovereign, and God sovereignly destroyed the nations (even Christian nations) who were of the opinion that we need to do nothing. It was not accidental that Israel went into exile 3 times (2 OT and 1 NT). And the apostle Peter warns us, "Judgment begins at the house of God". I am not trying to be like Jerry Falwell please. But neither can we think that we can continue living as we are and that God is going to ignore it. If that is the case, then either God is not just or I should abandon my beliefs, because they do not fit the God I believe.

Now in the case of an atheist, he will offer me his own convictions and beliefs and based on them he will offer his opinion on his candidate: McCain or Obama.

Voting for life sounds like a good rule for Christians. That means not voting for a pro-abortion candidate, and it also means not voting for anyone who supports an illegal, unjust, and immoral war in Iraq. That rules out both of the major-party candidates.

"BLESSED is the nation whose GOD is the LORD....." and "Righteousness exalts a nation,but sin is a disgrace to any people." We either believe the WORD OF GOD, or we don't.

I think that this was a very apporpriate article for our times. As Christians we should know not to judge or pass judgement. We will get no where by forcing personal opinions on to others. THe bible is not intended to be used to point out flaws. As Christians we need to reach out and welcome rather than to slam doors and comndemn. I have been really dissapointed of others who claim the same faith who have been so riled up by election politics that they so easily propagate slander and false judgement to merely back their opinion. It is not right for us to participate in gossip or mud slinging. Who are we to judge?

First off, I must point out that the form of government that the founders decided upon for the USA was NOT democracy, it was a Constitutional Republic. I have come to the point that I can't vote for anyone for president that doesn't know what form of government he/she is supposed to be leading. I guess that means that this year I won't be voting and that is significant for me as I have always voted since I was eligible.

Although I am a strongly pro-life born again believer, I will not be voting for the "pro life candidates." I have come to realize that this single issue has been used to manipulate me(and all born again/evangelical/prolife Christians) since the Reagan administration. The last eight years have been in reality a culture of death, torture, and corruption--with a born again President at the helm. I want to vote for someone who feeds the poor (fair wages and tax distribution), heals the sick (health care), and governs with prudence snd wisdom. I don't want to vote for candidates who pride themselves on being rebellious mavericks always looking for a fight at home and abroad. Abortion will never be illegal in this country even if Roe v Wade is overturned. States will then permit or prohibit abortion. By supporting families with health care, child care, and a living wage, we can drastically cut down on the number of abortions. At an abortion clinic I talked a woman out of an abortion. Her husband asked me angrily who would pay for this child's education. Only one candidate is talking about helping people afford college.
Paula Williams

I pray that no Christian ever assume that it doesn't matter who's the President, by some simple cliché that God is sovereign. Did it matter to Israel if David or Ahab was king? Would it matter if it was Jezebel or Deborah? Of course it matters! Morality is not just an election issue; it's a life issue. We should be grateful for Pres. Bush's moral life and do you think that doesn't matter? The posture of these platforms are so opposed that it should be a non-question for Christians. Let us not relinquish our responsibiity to government programs. Don't be emotional about it. Don't be swept away by populism! Think it through! Pray it through! One choice will further our demise into a moral cesspool, the likes of which we have never seen. The opposite vote, will at least be a reprieve and another act of God's kindness to America toward repentance. Yes it matters who you vote for!!! and yes, IT ALSO MATTERS TO GOD!!!

Voting for Barack Obama is unacceptable. The man is quite literally in the pocket of the anti-Christ.

And the sad thing is...many Christians are being fooled by him.

God help us all.

Why haven't my comments from yesterday been posted? Maybe my voice is insignificant indeed!

I'm from Guatemala and I can't vote but I think this is a good article. I have some questions. Is there a political party endorsed by the Bible? Is the"other party" from the evil? Which is worst, kill babies or innocent adults in the wars? What would Jesus do?

God must have a plan for America, or we wouldn't have survived the past eight years. (oh yea except for the 5000 soldiers who have died in Iraq)

Holly says: Clinton, I’d caution you in the use of the word “heresy.” It gets thrown around a lot these days, especially among Christians when they disagree with one another. Heresy deals with statements that are at variance with core church beliefs. The concept I’ve discussed here isn’t a core Christian value; it doesn’t rank with core concepts such as sovereignty of God, the triune God, or salvation by grace. (If I ever do make a heretical statement, I sure hope folks would correct that wrong thinking right away, out of concern and Christian love for me.)

David, I don’t see how King David/Deborah parallel the American presidential election. King David was selected by God. (And there were those who felt he shouldn’t be king—even to the point of coups.) God also raised up Deborah to serve as a judge after the Israelites cried out to God. Neither were placed in their leadership positions by a popular vote.

The Bible should never be used to justify our opinions. Rather, our opinions should be shaped by our study of God’s Word. As we read Scripture, we must consider it within its historical and cultural context, not ours.

Milo,

There's been about 40 million babies aborted since Roe v Wade. This is greater than even the Holocaust? Is this a small number? Check out priestsforlife.org

First, to the poster who says Barack Obama is in the pocket of the anti-Christ, on what specific facts do you base that statement?? Second, abortion is an important issue, but there are other equally important issues, such as: poverty, homelessness, injustice, and the credibility of the United States in the world community. Finally, anyone who votes has a perfectly legitimate right to keep that vote secret, thus a secret ballot vote. Proverbs does say that only a fool tells everything he knows. May our dear Lord guide this election according to His will!!

Just as I do not have to pray on whether or not to have an affair with someone else. I do not have to evaluate these two candidates. McCain was not one of my top choices but as a Christian he is the closest I have in this race. The Democratic party is the party of pro-death and pro-homosexuality no matter who their presidential candidate is. Democrats have more socialistic points of view. How a so-called Christian can even consider voting for them is beyond me. One must look at the voting records to reaffirm ones stance on things but will find Republicans fall best in line with the Christian. Christian either have no clue on scripture or the voting records of these policies, but only one comes the closet to our worldview each time. Obama what a joke!

Thank you Paula Williams. You sum my thoughts up very well.

It is obvious to me that the author is voting for Obama. If you want to keep your presidential pick to yourself, why make it so obvious? Although I don't agree with an earlier comment that Obama is "out of the pocket of the antichrist," it sounds like the author has merely bought into the growing trend of Christians supporting liberal candidates simply because it's become popular for the church to ignore candidate's positions on issues that are clearly addressed in the Bible.

opinions, beliefs, and convictions

What I liked about this article: Being born again is NOT equal to perfect reasoning or understanding. Isn't it comforting to know that God is neither a Democrate or Republican. One party wants to kill them before they are born and the other says it's okay to send them for the slaughter as long as they are voluntering adults.

What I didn't like about the article: It relies a lot on men's opinions...like the seminary lecturer basically passing his own personal OPINIONS as gospel truth.

The word BELIEF from the context of Christianity (since seminary is usually associated with Christianity) is much stronger than the word conviction and contrary to the quoted theologian.

Have you ever heard of a Church of CONVICTION? There is NO such a thing. Usually one's convictions stem out of one's FAITH or belief and as Bilical scholars know, both words stem from one Greek word; PISTEUO.

It appears that the more people try to learn about the Bible, the less they actually learn about what is between Genesis and Revelation.

Below synonyms for OPINION:

advice, attitude, concept, conclusion, conjecture, consensus, CONVICTION, decision, diagnosis, dictum, doctrine. Source: Dictionary.com

Conclusion: I will keep my political opinions and convictions to myself. The last time I paraded them and eeven campaigned on behalf of, we ended up with George BUSH.

While I agree with the author that we need to discern what are important, the author does a poor job by trying to disconnect "opinions, beliefs and convictions." They are all related and are determined by one's value or worldview. One has either the Biblical worldview or values or anti-Biblical worldview or values. Also, the author commits the common mistake of trying to separate "political/civic decisions" from her faith. No doubt God is sovereign, but this does not mean we have the license to disobey God.

I have enjoyed your magazine until the article Red, Right & Blue. If I want to read about politics on the left I can read Newsweek or Time or I can listen to CNN. If I want to hear fair and balance I can listen to Fox. If I want I Christian point of view I thought I could read your magazine BUT I was wrong. The only one in the article that spoke from a Christian point of view was Cindy. I was very disappointed that you have decided to go to polical correctness. If another article like that comes into your magazine I will cancel my subscription.

I fully recognize my ability to misinterpret this editorial. That being said, I came away from it with a strong feeling that the real issue here for the writer is fear. Fear of arguing, fear of harming friendships by arguing, fear of being hurt by arguing, fear of being unable to properly voice her opinions (or whatever we're calling them :) ), perhaps fear of being "wrong". These are not unfamiliar fears, if fears are what they are. But they are also not worth submitting to, especially if the pretext for doing so is inaccurate.

Skimming through the comments here, I both can and can't understand the idea that we should be sharing the gospel, not talking politics. Yes, both provide opportunities for alienation, and yes, the former is the more important issue. That being said, are we really still living in a culture that can listen to the gospel while Christians refuse to talk about what matters to the world?

I can't help but remember my friend Shayne. I met Shayne my first year in college, when he strode in to the Christian fellowship room, plunked himself down on the couch, and began insulting everyone he could goad into professing a belief in creationism. We never made an effort to bar Shayne from returning, and return he did, but needless to say, in that context, there was no room for friendship.

A year later, I was in-between studies and working on film sets as a member of the Canadian actor's union. Film sets are strange work environments - you spend hours and hours sitting around with nothing to do, and then jump up for fifteen minutes of work, and then sit down again. Needless to say, they're great places to meet people. It was on one of these film shoots that I ran into Shayne again. In close quarters for three months, with little to do but talk to the people around us, and out of a Christian context, Shayne discovered (and I vice-versa) that I was someone he could talk to and be friends with, that we had a lot of common ground and tastes and passions - more so than we had uncommon. This is not to say that we never talked religion again, but we did wait awhile and build a friendship before it came up again. And no, he didn't have a sudden conversion experience because we became friends. What I think he got out of it was the new idea that Christians don't need to be objects of ridicule, that they can be accessible, interesting people to talk with and share ideas with and jam with and have breakfast with and just be friends. And that's important, and would never have happened if I hadn't been willing to talk to Shayne about the things he was interested in.

The other issue here I don't understand is the idea that if we're talking about politics, somehow we aren't talking/can't talk about God as well. That's not a given, that's the choice and responsibility of the debater. If a Christian is having an honest discussion about why they have the stance they do on, say, social justice or health care, he or she cannot rightly avoid bringing God actively into said discussion. I don't see someone who's bold and confident enough to discuss political views being too timid and uncertain to discuss the basis for those views.

It drives me crazy because people assume because I'm a Christian, I'm voting for McCain. I really have not decided who I am voting for yet. But (and this is the important thing to me), I do NOT believe that God endorses one political party over the other. God is not a Republican and He is not a Democrat either. He does already know who is going to be elected and He will be with that person.

The fact of the matter is, God gave us free will. Period. We are to choose how we live our lives and by what rules. How can one mere mortal, or one party, decide for everyone what God has given us to choose for ourselves? Christians know that we will be judged by the choices we make, including and ESPECIALLY the choice to accept the sacrifice of Jesus.
One of the freedoms of our country is the freedom of the vote. Ballots are secret for a reason.
While I have a good idea where my pastor's political leanings probably are, he would never use the pulpit to tell his congregation (of over 8,000 people and growing) how to vote. There are more important things ,like winning eternal salvation for the unsaved.
God is in control, and eventually the world we are in will be made right. We may have to wait for the next life, but that also will be man's choice, as ordained by God.

Sounds like the liberal drivel I hear on NPR and CNN.

This message is in response to Conni's post deploring the lack of unbiased media. You couldn't be more right that all news media has a bias, and that is true of Fox News as well. Fox News is not "fair and balanced." I think the best way to get close to the truth is to not accept any news source as gospel--right or left leaning, but to read and listen and think critically. If a condidate is accused of taking something out of context, then go to the source and judge for yourself. After a debate go to factchecker.com and see who distorted what. And then "read the red." We are called to do all to the glory of God--and that includes running a campaign.
Paula Williams

There is no candidate on the ticket that shows Christ-like character. In fact, I don't believe there are any Christians on either ticket. Therefore, my vote goes to the person I believe will lead the country best.

Further, we need to give each other, as believers, the freedom to hold differing opinions from ours. This presidential election is not central to issues of salvation. I don't believe that God will hold one's voting preference as evidence of salvation.

Romans 14:10 But you, why do you judge your brother? Or you again, why do you regard your brother with contempt? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God.

Holly says: Elly, thank you for sharing your thoughts. I'd like to correct one assumption you made about my position, and also praise an excellent point you made.

My silence isn't about fear. Ten years ago, I was what you might call a "party insider"--I passed out lawn signs, made calls for candidates, stood next to candidates at press conferences, threw party events. I attended $1,000-a-plate fundraisers. (Let it be known that I attended those for free because of my extensive volunteer work for the party--writers don't have that kind of money to pay to attend political events!) So, I was very vocal. Over the years, I've written many opinion pieces and spoken on panels. Folks who know me could tell you I'm always willing to engage in meaningful conversation on controversial topics—meaning that the discussants are mentally engaged and respectful.

Which leads to the compliment. After I wrote this post, a close friend insisted that I share my thoughts with her on the first presidential debate. She told me she wanted to have the conversation so she could know me better, and I could also know her. We hold very different positions, but I can say we do know each other better now. So I’d agree with you that conversations about controversial matters can be beneficial.

Still, I maintain that most debate about this election isn’t productive because people aren’t listening to each other. Many are defending their positions emotionally rather than producing a line of reasoning. (I’ve heard so many folks say one candidate’s ideas were “just plain stupid”—and that’s the full extent of their argument.) Case in point: Following the first presidential debate, the pundits on CNN spent perhaps 20 minutes arguing about John McCain’s stumble over the pronunciation of “Ahmadinejad”—what a waste of airtime!

When conversations devolve into shouting matches—which is how I view the vast majority of discussion about the election right now—I’m not interested in taking part.

Holly, you're point is well-taken. I mistakenly used the word "heresy". The word that I meant to use however is "deception". I do believe that one cannot set up a false dichotomy between beliefs, convictions and opinions like I mentioned in the above post and I do stand by my thesis that it is a terrible deception to separate the three.

Like I said earlier, we as human beings are one integral whole. Thus everything we say, do comes from what we deeply believe. Jesus said, "Out of the heart, the mouth speaks". To suggest that I can believe one thing but say another is to suggest I'm some sort of schizophrenic.

Let me give 2 examples: In Boston after Roe v Wade, certain Christian legislators were given the impression that they religious faith was private and because they represented the people, it was perfectly legal and conscientious for them to support abortion, even though this would directly contradict their belief. In fact, many Christians today take this approach.
However, the real problem is should such a person disregard their conscience and obey the government of man or like Peter, disobey the government and obey God?

The second example is I believe a certain scientific theory. In class, I could either say these are opinions offered by various people about the theory or I say I believe it myself. If I offer my opinion on it, whatever it is, it is my belief.

This is really important I think at this time in our country. Many people are disregarding their consciences and saying "we need not vote on the basis of a single issue". If the issue were how many new rooms should be built in the White House, I understand. However, when the issue is the gruesome, horrific murder of 45 million humans since Roe I do not understand.

What account shall I give to God on Judgment Day? I thought this issue didn't matter God? Well, that's if I believe as a Christian I will be judged. Most Christians don't even believe that, and that in my opinion, belief and conviction is heresy!

Oh, on a side note, I noticed the points that you made to David and your conclusion that our ideas must be derived from the Bible and not vice-versa. I completely agree with you. The entire books of Judges, Kings and Chronicles documents how God blessed or punished Israel and Judah on the basis of the actions of their kings. In fact, God was upset with them that they even wanted a king at His expense! So even though God is Sovereign, the actions of our leaders is important and we must elect good and God-fearing leaders. If we do not, God can sovereignly destroy or punish our nation as well. I hope this won't be a surprise to Americans. It has happened to every nation that has rejected God and placed man, power and authority over God. As G.K. Chesterton said, "Abolish God and the government becomes God".

My greatest worry is that we have reached a time when we have more faith in human government than in the God we claim to believe. I don't expect anything but a mess if we don't change.

"Blessed is the man who fears the Lord. Cursed is the man who trusts in a man" (paraphrase Jeremiah 17: 5-7)

I feel the same way! We should be involved and vote but we don't need to be in a frenzy/panic state about it. God is in control.

Holly, thanks for your thoughtful and timely article. Politics is such an emotional issue for so many people...and as a mommy blogger/speaker/author, it really bothers me that so many women are up in arms, and that they are spending countless hours debating--and fighting--about the candidates. I have friends on both sides of the political spectrum, so I came up with a Dr. Suess parody that encourages moms to vote their beliefs, not fight about them.

It's called "Red (State) Mom, Blue (State) Mom."

You can check it out here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxVugi06wyM

I hope it encourages someone to treat their political opposites with respect and grace.

I'm amazed at the rationalizations some of you make to justify voting for a pro-abortion candidate. If you vote for such a candidate.., the blood is on your hands as well. Pontius Pilate tried that.., washing his hands and then siding with the masses. It doesn't work.

When Jesus says he is our shephard he doesn't mean that we should think like sheep! I wish that some of you would just for a moment elevate their views beyond issues like "pro-life" or "pro-choice" to encompass the global consequences of your vote! Ask yourself, what does the president we elect do to God's creation as a whole - and beyond unborn life! Also, consider the already existing life on this planet... YOUR PRO-LIFE VOTE put a president into office who then fought unjust wars that killed tens of thousands of innocent children and loyal troops... your sons and daughters! Now, would simply based on your agenda of issues like "pro-life", would you once again elect a man who has previously threatened to annihilate North Korea, sang "bomb bomb bomb Iran" and vowed to keep troops in Iraq for 100 years if necessary? I hope so.

When Jesus says he is our shephard he doesn't mean that we should think like sheep! I wish that some of you would just for a moment elevate their views beyond issues like "pro-life" or "pro-choice" to encompass the global consequences of your vote! Ask yourself, what does the president we elect do to God's creation as a whole - and beyond unborn life! Also, consider the already existing life on this planet... YOUR PRO-LIFE VOTE put a president into office who then fought unjust wars that killed tens of thousands of innocent children and loyal troops... your sons and daughters! Now, would simply based on your agenda of issues like "pro-life", would you once again elect a man who has previously threatened to annihilate North Korea, sang "bomb bomb bomb Iran" and vowed to keep troops in Iraq for 100 years if necessary? I hope NOT.

Republican christians who tout anti-abortion as their voting issue are nothing more than total hypocrites! You kill at war - not just adults but children too. You demand guns to kill your neighbor. You rape the earth and deny justice to the poor. Your pro-life arguement is just hot air and hypocrisy. Of all the Republican presidents you've had since Roe Vs Wade, which one of them has done anything about abortion? Not One! Open your eyes! You're being played.
Put down your constitution and your guns, and read your Bible!!!!!!!!!!

Am I the only Christian woman who is alarmed by the mob rage demonstrated at the McCain/Palin rallies? Are there Christians in the audience, and if so, are they participating? Why aren't our Christian leaders speaking out and denouncing this unChrist like behavior? Some audience members are calling out "Kill him (Obama)!" Why is Palin allowing herself to be used to whip up this kind of anger and hatred? I am heartsick.

Paula Williams

This is why reading the whole bible is important............as christians...we are the poorest thinkers...it is truly incredible!!!Any candidate can telll you he loves God just to get your vote or that he does not believe in killing babies...only God...knows what this candidate really believes and I will tell you the truth God used ruler's who did not believe in him to FURTHER his will....my position is don't use the bible to cover...deep seated fears...God will not honor that..and sooner or later..our nation will reap it's ill-covered decision's as a nation...READ the WHOLE bible.

I praise God for where he's brought me, because five years ago I wouldn't have recognized I was making an assumption - or be glad and interested by hearing the truth of the matter. Thanks, Holly. :)

I wonder if the current lack of real, civilized political discussion has something to do with Jon Stewart's influence. Before Bush got re-elected, "The Daily Show" actually tried to hear out both sides of an argument, and took shots at both sides as well. After Bush won a second term, Stewart kind of gave up and lost his head, and started going the way of Bill Maher's "Politically Incorrect". And I know far too many people in their 20s who hang on Jon Stewart's every word, not to mention get their election news only from him (or, in Canada, Stewart equivalent George Strombolopoulos on "The Hour"). Their political icon, the man they're taking their cues from on how to approach the sociopolitical arena, is someone who's lost interest in conversation. Stewart protege Steven Colbert retains some vestiges of pre-Bush good natured satire, but even he contradicts his mission by inviting learned people onto the show and then refusing to have a real conversation with them.

I wonder.

The inability to engage in a civilized discourse is a worsening trend, and personally I think the lion's share of the blame must be put on those commentators who are more about "heat" than "light". Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity are obvious examples, but the worst is Bill O'Reilly, mostly because he makes a great noise about being a "no-spin" sort. In actuality I am surprised his head hasn't spun itself off his body! His statements about Christ, who if he were walking the earth today, would be in favor of invading Iraq were distressing and disgraceful. These commentators who pretend to be journalists must surely be called to account before the comedians! At least they are trying to engage in satire of those in the power structure. A democracy needs them. I certainly agree, however, that those who cross lines should be avoided - change the channel! Better yet, why don't we turn off all the "noisemakers" and become informed through more thorough and objective news sources? Let's try every day to be in the world but not of the world!

Amoung all these comments I hear so much hate and anger towards anyone believing differently. How is that being christian. It saddens me deeply that people who believe in pro-choice are being considered un-christian. It scares me that so many people are voting for a candidate simply because they are pro-life or pro-choice. there are SO many more important matters to running our country then 1 issue. this is a VERY important election, and I greatly thank the author for writing what is a very very good article. it really isn't worth fighting for, and if you ask my OPINION, it's this fighting that is simply un-christian. Jesus is LOVE, not HATE and ANGER. I pray for all of us!

Thanks for majoring in the important stuff; like it's a privilege to vote and using the upcoming election to take time to think about why I do what I do.

Refreshing - thinking - rather than voting by political party, media opinions or race.

Keep up the good work - and let those who missed your entire point - well, let them take time to read your article again.

I rather suspect you don't have to tell people who you will vote for - your values already do.

Yes God rules but He has two scenarios. Could we have a leader that will bring about judgment on us or will be spared?

The sovereign God that spared King Jehoshaphat life by moving the Syrian army away from him when he cried out to God also had a random arrow shot from unknown Syrian soldier kill King Ahab.

It is matter of will we be under God's grace or under His wrath as a nation.

We may very well see a dramatic change on the world stage if one individual is elected.